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NFL Draft Discussion and Debate: Ndamukong Suh

Ndamukong Suh

 

Here at NFLDraftBlog.net we're not going to be like any other NFL Draft blog or site on the web, we're going to debate the finer points of each prospect, positive and negative and analyze where each player fits in the best.  So with that in mind we introduce one of our strongest features here, NFL Draft debate.  A feature we plan to use to cover most of the top prospects in the 2010 NFL draft to analyze them, debate them both positives and negatives and try to figure exactly how they fit and where they fit. 

To start things off the two resident draft experts, David Maziasz and Brett Solesky tackle Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, who is being talked about as one of the best prospects of the last decade at the DT spot. 

In college football Suh's game was pure dominance, strength, power, and speed were aspects of his game that showed up the most on film.   Butt just how well does his game translate to the next level?  What are Suh's weaknesses and precisely what position does he fit in at in the NFL?  Is he a pure three technique in the mold of a Tommie Harris, Sedrick Ellis or Warren Sapp?  Does Suh's versatility and possible ability to play multiple D-Line spot hurt his ability more than help? 

These are just some of the questions that David and Brett tackled in their debate on Ndamukong Suh, a player that could revolutionize the game as a DT, or possibly be yet another prospect that the so-called experts miss out on. 

The first part of the debate gets started with Brett's take on just what he's seen of Suh that raises some concerns.  Concerns that may justify not investing Top-5 NFL draft pick money in a position that's notoriously struggled to make an immediate impact in the NFL as a rookie.

LSU Pro Day Wrap

Perry Riley

 

One thing you can count on down in Baton Rouge is that the LSU Tigers will always have at least a handful of NFL ready prospects each and every year.  This year is no different as the Tigers field a dozen prospects who were invited to the NFL combine to workout a couple weeks ago.

There are a few highly regarded prospects who could go in the early parts of round two, however the prospects that showed up the best at the Pro Day on Monday were three less heralded prospects, all on the defensive side of the ball.  The three stand outs covered the three personnel groupings on defense, the DT position, the LB and one CB put forth efforts that could raise their NFL draft stock.  Find out which three stepped up their performances and were noticed inside. 

Oklahoma Pro Day Wrap Up

Gerald McCoy

 

Thirty one of the 32 NFL teams showed up in Norman Oklahoma to take in the Sooners' Pro Day for NFL scouts early last week.  However only  one of the two prospects thought of as a possible number one overall pick worked out, DT Gerald McCoy.  Sam Bradford is still taking the time he feels is necessary to be completely healed from his shoulder injury and won't workout until the 29th of March.


McCoy started his day having breakfast with St. Louis Rams head coach Steve Spagnolo.  The Rams are obviously considering taking McCoy with the first overall pick and if they do take McCoy or Suh it would mark the first time since 1994 a DT was drafted  number one overall. 

McCoy however continued to improve on his impressive off-season as he continues to give Ndamukong Suh a major challenge for the top defensive tackle rating in the upcoming draft.  McCoy is 6-4 295-pounds went through most of the same D-Line drills at the combine and continued to impress the scouts in attendance.  As one scout reported "You always expect him to do well, and then he always does better than you expect."

McCoy stands out as a very athletic DT with very little fat on his body, arguably a lean frame for 295-pounds.  McCoy stood on the rest of his work out numbers from the NFL combine but looked sharp and crisp in the individual drills. You can clearly see in this video just how smooth McCoy is going through his drills.

Offensive tackle Trent Williams improved on some of his numbers from the NFL combine likely solidifying his status as a top-15 prospect in the draft.  Williams improved his time in the short shuttle from the 4.6 he ran at the NFL combine to a 4.4 he ran at the pro day.  He then followed that improvement up with a better time in the three cone drill running a 7.4 down from a 7.6 seconds he ran at the combine. 

Williams measures 6-4 314-pounds with long 34 1/4 inch arms solid size for a future left tackle prospect.  Williams was one of the biggest surprises during his workout at the NFL combine, where he was projected to worse by scouts than he did.  One scout predicted at the combine that Williams would be a bust compared to how he was hyped going in.  Williams however was the second most impressive offensive tackle in the work out department at the combine and he continued to impress in front of scouts on this day. 

Williams has quick feet, solid athleticism and impressive strength and has been called the best O-Lineman to come out of Oklahoma in the better part of a decade.  He can play either tackle spot as he was primarily a starter at right tackle before moving to the left side upon the graduation and subsequent drafting of Phil Loadholdt last year.  Here are some high lights from Williams' work out in Norman.

All the official numbers for the players who participated in the Oklahoma Pro Day workout can be found here on the OU official athletic site.

Alabama Pro Day Wrap Up

LB Rolando McClain

 

The national champions held their 2010 annual pro day down in Tuscaloosa on March 10th and many of the top prospects participated.  Alabama, not surprisingly is loaded with some top NFL caliber players, with at least two players who could wind up going in the first round. 

The Crimson Tide roster is so loaded in fact that they had a total of 10 players work out at the NFL combine earlier this month.  Plus representatives from all 32 NFL teams showed up to see all 18 draft eligible NFL players work out.  This is typically what you get when you experience the level of success that the Tide has recently.  The story line though had to be the work out of middle linebacker/inside linebacker Rolando McClain who didn't work out for scouts at the combine due to a hamstring injury.  McClain was in full effect inside the Tide's indoor practice facility measuring in at a solid 6-foot-4 259-pounds.  McClain is built like a typical thumping inside linebacker, he can play down hill fill up the gaps shed blockers and make the tackle.  He's obviously an ideal fit in the 3-4 scheme, but shouldn't be written off in the 4-3 scheme as a MIKE because he could hold up well at the point of attack in a one gap scheme. 

McClain then went out and ran the 40-yard dash in a decent time in the 4.6 to low 4.7 range on both tries.  This would be considered an acceptable time for a player of McClain's size.  He also flowed naturally through the linebacker drills showing agility and ability to get quickly into zone if called upon. 

To be clear though McClain's strength is a thumper, a gap filler stout stud at the point of attack.  He's not going to make as many plays side line to side line or dropping back into zone coverage as he will coming up and punching you in the mouth.  He's going to meet the fullback or guard head on in the hole, blow up the block and make the tackle.  This is the strength to his game and given that he's played in Nick Saban's NFL friendly 3-4 defense he should be able to come in and make a  contribution as a rookie. 

Elsewhere Terrence Cody continues to show his dedication to dropping weight a very important aspect to his standing in the upcoming draft.  Cody has dropped another five pounds since the NFL combine to 349-pounds down from his high of 370-pounds at the Senior Bowl. 

The 349-pound weight appears to be an all-time low for Cody since arriving at Alabama and he could put himself into the latter part of the first round the further weight he drops.  Cody is a pure 3-4 two-gap nose tackle and any team seeking to build the personnel for a stronger 3-4 defense could find Cody rather enticing.  Cody will likely hold some more personal workouts prior to the NFL draft and it will be interesting to monitor his weight leading up to the draft in late April. 

The other Crimson Tide member of note to go through some drills was offensive guard Mike Johnson.  Johnson is a mid round projection who measures 6-5 312-pounds.  Johnson ran the 40-yard dash and kept his time in the 5.3 range, same as he ran at the NFL combine.  In the two agility drills Johnson  ran a 5.05 short shuttle and 8.16 three-cone drill.

YouTube High lights From Alabama's Pro Day can be found here

NFLDraftBlog.net Big Board

Rank

Player

Pos.

School

1

Ndamakong Suh

DT

Nebraska

2

Gerald McCoy

DT

Oklahoma

3

Eric Berry

S

Tennessee

4

Sam Bradford

QB

Oklahoma

5

Jimmy Clausen

QB

Notre Dame

6

Russell Okung

OT

Oklahoma St

7

Anthony Davis

OT

Rutgers

8

Dez Bryant

WR

Oklahoma St

9

Derrick Morgan

DE

Georgia Tech

10

Kyle Wilson

CB

Boise St

11

Jason Pierre Paul

DE

USF

12

Rolando McClain

LB

Alabama

13

Trent Williams

OT

Oklahoma

14

Joe Haden

CB

Florida

15

Sean Witherspoon

LB

Missouri

16

CJ Spiller

RB

Clemson

17

Bryan Bulaga

OT

Iowa

18

Earl Thomas

S

Texas

19

Brian Price

DT

UCLA

20

Mike Iupati

OG

Idaho

21

Jermaine Gresham

TE

Oklahoma

22

Dan Williams

DT

Tennessee

23

Charles Brown

OT

USC

24

Jahvid Best

RB

California

25

Brandon Graham

DE

Michigan

26

Sergio Kindle

LB

Texas

27

Ryan Mathews

RB

Fresno State

28

Taylor Mays

S

USC

29

Bruce Campbell

OT

Maryland

30

Terrence Cody

DT

Alabama

31

Ricky Sapp

LB

Clemson

32

Brandon LaFell

WR

LSU

Gerald McCoy

University of Oklahoma - Defensive Tackle
6'4" - 295 lbs
geraldmccoy

Summary:

A 2nd-team All-American defensive tackle, Gerald McCoy is an extremely disruptive and tenacious defender capable of foiling an offensive gameplan.  He offers unique pass rush ability, while remaining effective against the run. In high school, McCoy was named USA Today's defensive player of the year in 2005, and Gatorade's Oklahoma Player of the Year. In his last two years in college, McCoy was named to both the First Team Big 12 and First Team All American teams. Many believe he was the best press conference and interview at the NFL Combine. Top 5 pick.

Strengths:

1-gap penetrator...extremely active hands...great motor...sheds blockers with ease...explosive short area quickness... wide girth...strong lower body...very agile...polished pass rush technique...team captain...excellent character and work ethic... charismatic... intelligent... very durable... disruptive... tenacious... productive career, even on an average defense... plays well in big games.

Weaknesses:

Lacks muscle definition... average upper body strength... can be moved off the ball...struggles against cut blocks...not asked to anchor against run much in college.

Prospect Grade: A+

Anthony Davis

Rutgers University - Offensive Tackle
6'5" 323 lbs
anthonydavis

Summary:

Anthony Davis is one of top OT prospects in the 2010 draft he's a three year starter In his initial year at Rutgers, Davis played in all 13 games on the year.

He was named starting right guard for the sixth game of the season and started the final eight games of the 2007 season. He earned First-team Freshman All-American honors by the Football Writers Association of America, The Sporting News and Rivals.com, and Second-team All-American laurels from Scout.com.

Davis was moved to left tackle before the 2008 season, and started 12 games at that position. He was named to the Second-team All-Big East by the league’s head coaches and a First-team All-Big East honoree by the media.

Strengths:

In 2009 Davis was First-team All-Big East and Second-team All-America. Davis has great size for the left tackle position, and has solid agility for the LT spot.  Great foot work, solid athleticism with a naturally fluid kick step and solid punch at the point of attack.  Is one of the better pass and run blockers in the draft at the OT position as he does both near equally well.  He has long arms and he can lock on and steer the rusher safely away from the QB.  Has no problem moving his feet and can shuffle and pick up late blitzers or twisting D-Linemen.  Is known to be an average run blocker who has a great punch off the ball and is strong enough to drive the defender off the ball.

Shows an ability to be able to pull and trap well and can get out to the second level to hit linebackers or men in the secondary. Can be a force out in front leading the way on sweeps, or screens with his athleticism can really open up the game.  Isn't exactly known as a hard worker, has a history of big weight fluctuations as he at one time weighed close to 360-pounds.  May need someone to keep him motivated as he may not be motivated enough to keep in shape on his own.

Weaknesses:

Is not a big weight room guy with a lot of pure strength to go with his superb athleticism.  Is not a natural knee bender which can lead to problems anchoring against the bull rush or adjusting to a rusher's counter move.  Can get to upright at times which leads to problems in the leverage battle in stopping a bull rush.

With weight to strength ratio concerns sending up a couple red flags he doesn't put himself in the elite OT category.  Sort of a boom or bust prospect if he doesn't keep his weight under control and improve  his strength.

Not the best run blocking OT in the draft, he can get lazy in finishing his blocks and playing through the whistle.  Often times just squares up to block the man directly in front of him rather showing the hustle to block other unblocked players on the play.

Prospect Grade: A-

Dez Bryant

Oklahoma State University - Wide Receiver
6'2" - 220 lbs
Photo by G. Newman Lowrance/Getty Images North America
Summary:

Bryant appears to be walking down the same path as Michael Crabtree: elite upside, excellent college production, huge character concerns. No one can doubt Bryant's talent, but being prohibited from playing by the NCAA this past year certainly hurt his draft stock. He's been working on climbing back up, but inexplicably not working out at the Combine has only furthered the concerns.

Strengths:

Very athletic... good height and build... elite skills on jump balls... very good hands, soft and strong... consistently beat press coverage in college... high level of body control... sees the field very well... tough to bring down... can return punts in a pinch... despite his skills, still has some upside.

Weaknesses:

Legit character concerns, though some are overstated... not very fast (and didn't run the 40 at the Combine)... routes are often imprecise... not explosive coming out of breaks... probably profiles as a great #2 more than a #1.

Prospect Grade: A-

Eric Berry

University of Tennessee - Safety
6'0" - 211 lbs
November 22, 2008 - Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images North America

Summary:

The consensus #1 Safety in the 2010 draft, Eric Berry rose to the occasion in his 2009 season while his main competitor Taylor Mays struggled. Berry's flexibility to play on the line of scrimmage as a nickelback or in the box as a strong safety is impressive, but his money will be made at his natural free safety spot.

Strengths:

Incredible athlete... quick feet, very explosive, and fast.. instinctive player, has a great nose for the ball... elite feet... makes plays when it counts, makes plays when it doesn't... good backpedal and excellent hip fluidity... good recovery speed... great football IQ... tough, plays through pain... hits hard, very violent without being dirty... great tackler... elite in almost every aspect of his game.

Weaknesses:

Has had some injury issues with left shoulder... less instinctive against the run, sometimes takes the wrong angle... needs to get stronger up top... needs to stay lower in his backpedal...

Prospect Grade: A+

Ndamukong Suh

University of Nebraska - Defensive Tackle
6'4" - 307 lbs
Photo by William Lauer

Summary:

The Boy named Suh is almost universally considered the top man in the draft. An absolute beast at Nebraska, Suh became legend when he almost singlehandedly defeated Texas in the Big 12 Championship game. He will be gone in the top 3 picks unless something drastic happens between now and April. Whoever winds up with Suh is going to instantly improve their entire defense.

Strengths:

Great frame... excellent upper body strength... plays with great leverage... very athletic for an inside man... great instinct for finding the ball carrier... versatile, could play either inside spot in 4-3 or defensive end in a 3-4 defense... mind blowing first step, similar to Warren Sapp (but not quite there)... high motor, great second effort... high character, great leadership...

Weaknesses:

History of knee ailments... plays a little high at times which affects his leverage... did not always need to be consistent technically in college, but will in the pros... hand placement is good, but a bit inconsistent and will need to be improved to make him elite at the next level...

Prospect Grade: A+